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V8Druid
21-09-2015, 02:22 PM
this could and will have some serious ramifications for VW !!:eek::eek:

"Volkswagen's chief executive has said sorry after US regulators found some of its cars disguised pollution levels. -

....... The EPA said that the fine for each vehicle that did not comply with federal clean air rules would be up to $37,500 (24,000). With 482,000 cars sold since 2008 involved in the allegations, it means the fines could reach $18bn. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34311819

Traxcavator.
21-09-2015, 04:54 PM
If I were VW I'd say "well they were ok when we tested them" :)

d4c24a
21-09-2015, 05:03 PM
i would probably tell them to get fucked :D

Traxcavator.
21-09-2015, 07:28 PM
i would probably tell them to get fucked :D

sounds like a reasonable reply to a load of bollocks Graham ..... :) ;)

doobin
21-09-2015, 07:46 PM
The way I read it is that the software altered the engine's running parameters to make it run cleaner (but with much less power) if it detected that the engine was being tested.

Traxcavator.
21-09-2015, 07:59 PM
The way I read it is that the software altered the engine's running parameters to make it run cleaner (but with much less power) if it detected that the engine was being tested.
They are bloody clever these days ...... could do with engines that can detect being tested when having an MOT :)

Mark10
21-09-2015, 08:00 PM
Never in this world would they pay an $18bn fine

V8Druid
21-09-2015, 08:13 PM
regrettably guys, they've been caught with their pants well and truly down ...... blatantly cheating with the engine management software. :eek:

Very probably the tip of the iceberg amongst all of 'em ...... but Veedub have been the first to be found out :rolleyes:

Certainly knocking the crap out of their share value!!:(

Frankly, after all the crap the Yanks have pumped into the atmosphere over the decades with their 'gas guzzlers', I too would tell 'em to go **** themselves ........ but they will want to continue to sell their wares over there ....... so they's just a bit stuffed :eek:

V8Druid
21-09-2015, 08:15 PM
They are bloody clever these days ...... could do with engines that can detect being tested when having an MOT :)

I should smile - where do I queue for the 'add on' :D

V8Druid
21-09-2015, 08:18 PM
Never in this world would they pay an $18bn fine

Very doubtful, when the entire company was only valued at 46bn before the shit hit the fan

'Praps the yanks want 'em out of the market place? :rolleyes:

Local Diggers
21-09-2015, 09:18 PM
shares have dropped 22% so only a 30bn company today. how can such a rediculously large fine do any good for anyone? loss of jobs when vw folds? mental

d4c24a
21-09-2015, 09:29 PM
time to buy :)

bri963
22-09-2015, 08:17 PM
They've duped the EU as well, so there'll be more fines from this side of the pond. Be interesting to see how the Yanks will react if Ford or GM get caught doing the same.

V8Druid
22-09-2015, 08:28 PM
They've duped the EU as well, so there'll be more fines from this side of the pond. Be interesting to see how the Yanks will react if Ford or GM get caught doing the same.

would imagine there're a lot of manufacturers doing some serious track covering ATM - or at least trying hard to :rolleyes::D

"Vorsprung Durch Technic" ain't quite as advanced as they'd like us all to believe :D :eek:

Traxcavator.
22-09-2015, 08:29 PM
Now if you were the MD of VW usa and you were clever enough to be that MD, you would have said the mode the carsncomputor switched to was the workshop service mode and that the fact that the car was not steering etc and so limited emissions whilst in the confines of the workshop, if this mode then was activated in the same perameters due to the testing it was a huge oversight and was obviously a serious issue that had been over looked ..... thank you for bringing it to our attention ..... now could I claim just 1% of the imposing fines for my help sir ? NO because you have already proved your inability to be the man for the job .... and spilled the beans duhr brain !!

V8Druid
22-09-2015, 08:37 PM
Now if you were the MD of VW usa and you were clever enough to be that MD, you would have said the mode the carsncomputor switched to was the workshop service mode and that the fact that the car was not steering etc and so limited emissions whilst in the confines of the workshop, if this mode then was activated in the same perameters due to the testing it was a huge oversight and was obviously a serious issue that had been over looked ..... thank you for bringing it to our attention ..... now could I claim just 1% of the imposing fines for my help sir ? NO because you have already proved your inability to be the man for the job .... and spilled the beans duhr brain !!

Very, very good Tim :cool:

Were you a devious bar steward in a previous life perchance! :rolleyes::D:D

AtlasRob
22-09-2015, 08:41 PM
I really don't see the problem.

As long as certain nations continue to pump plumes of shite into air in the process of producing usable fuel from what is being extracted from the ground the rest of us and all the emission regulations might a well be pissing in the sea in an effort to raise sea level.

Guarantee a pound to a pinch of salt that VW are not the only ones, simply first to get sussed.

JD450A
22-09-2015, 08:43 PM
Hopefully the whole bullshit of emissions regs being pretty unobtainable will be called into play now. Will save everyone lots of hassle.

Why should we have to put up with Ad blue crap etc when Africa doesn't have to bother!

V8Druid
22-09-2015, 08:44 PM
I really don't see the problem.

As long as certain nations continue to pump plumes of shite into air in the process of producing usable fuel from what is being extracted from the ground the rest of us and all the emission regulations might a well be pissing in the sea in an effort to raise sea level.

Guarantee a pound to a pinch of salt that VW are not the only ones, simply first to get sussed.

Absolutely Rob and as said previously, the Yanks were some of the biggest offenders ...... for decades

Green taxes/legislation's just another way of bleeding us all dry, supposedly in our own name and best interests ........ BOLLOX :mad:

Traxcavator.
22-09-2015, 09:03 PM
is 'devious bar steward' the same as forward quick thinking on the ball full of crap ? ... :D ..... descripton of a good MD ?

Now i have also pissed in the sea .... however, you make more of a differance in the swimming pool !! :D

V8Druid
22-09-2015, 09:04 PM
is 'devious bar steward' the same as forward quick thinking on the ball full of crap ? ... :D ..... descripton of a good MD ?

Now i have also pissed in the sea .... however, you make more of a differance in the swimming pool !! :D

You're on form tonight mate :cool::D

partsmonkey
23-09-2015, 01:41 PM
they wont get fines from other country's as its only the Californians/ epa who have stupidly low emissions regulations, that they are failing. the British will try to say that they cheated the emissions tax, but will be shot down by the EU ( read Germany) as soon as they open there mouth.

Regy53
23-09-2015, 05:51 PM
i find it amazing how they have done this.

It was a perfect crime, until caught .

Machine manufactures manipulate specs and spec sheets all day long.

V8Druid
23-09-2015, 06:26 PM
i find it amazing how they have done this.

It was a perfect crime, until caught .

Machine manufactures manipulate specs and spec sheets all day long.

PMSL!! Ross :D:D:D

V8Druid
23-09-2015, 06:30 PM
we're all being ripped off royally ...... in the name of anti-pollution/being green
This is just another example - you pay your bucks for 'the' 'green car' which it now transpires has been fraudulently sold to you!! :mad:

A class action for refunds/compensation could finish VW :eek: (in it's present guise)
Would soon re-appear as VW2 or whatever, debt free :rolleyes:

Regy53
23-09-2015, 08:52 PM
PMSL!! Ross :D:D:D

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JD450A
23-09-2015, 10:21 PM
?????????????

Probably Secretly Mercedes Lied too.

V8Druid
23-09-2015, 11:49 PM
?????????????

" It was a perfect crime, ...... until caught "

Aren't they all Ross :rolleyes:

Just really tickled me when it popped up in't notifications!!:D

V8Druid
23-09-2015, 11:52 PM
Probably Secretly Mercedes Lied too.

very good Rory, 'cept ....... Probably Mercedes Secretly Lied too :D;)

Too many bevvys mate or you got a dyslexic finger too !!:rolleyes:

Regy53
24-09-2015, 05:12 AM
" It was a perfect crime, ...... until caught "

Aren't they all Ross :rolleyes:

Just really tickled me when it popped up in't notifications!!:D

ah lol :)


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V8Druid
24-09-2015, 09:17 AM
ah lol :)


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Brilliant!! :D
Amazing how little time the humour takes to surface, when something drastic happens!! :rolleyes:

strott
24-09-2015, 07:10 PM
If vehicles end up being affected over here would there potentially be issues for those working in the low emission zone in London?? :eek:

liamkav
24-09-2015, 07:28 PM
If vehicles end up being affected over here would there potentially be issues for those working in the low emission zone in London?? :eek:
I don't think so as that only really affects commercial vehicles, not sure if VW make anything big enough, i stand to be corrected though.

V8Druid
24-09-2015, 08:18 PM
If vehicles end up being affected over here would there potentially be issues for those working in the low emission zone in London?? :eek:

whadyamean IF ?!!!! more likely WHEN ........... and I'd bet my left nut, this is only the tip of the iceberg!! :eek:

Traxcavator.
24-09-2015, 08:26 PM
The Americans are ones to talk about emissions, been poluting for years and still do in most of the country. UK emission standards are apparently less stringent than California so only UK money grabbers will be disappointed I guess. This whole episode smacks of corruption at a high level !! and not at VW ;)